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		<title>Comment on About by glue</title>
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		<dc:creator>glue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Vanessa
   I added you to my blogroll.  Your wide image is exemplary so I hope you will continue to develop it (eg extend to the career discourse).  The next Hypermedia class will be visiting here.

Thanks
Greg Ulmer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Vanessa<br />
   I added you to my blogroll.  Your wide image is exemplary so I hope you will continue to develop it (eg extend to the career discourse).  The next Hypermedia class will be visiting here.</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Greg Ulmer</p>
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		<title>Comment on Expedition by vanattia</title>
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		<dc:creator>vanattia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  The &#039;off-screen&#039; reality is that Narvaez did not survive; he died, presumably, of starvation and/or drowning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  The &#8216;off-screen&#8217; reality is that Narvaez did not survive; he died, presumably, of starvation and/or drowning.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Atmosphere by vanattia</title>
		<link>http://vanessaattia.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/atmosphere-2/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>vanattia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In our popular memory we have also, of course, the ancient Greek myth of Narcissus, who fell in love with his reflection in a pool of water.  If this can be said of Narcissus, then it might be said that I, on the contrary, &lt;i&gt;ran&lt;/i&gt; from my reflection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In our popular memory we have also, of course, the ancient Greek myth of Narcissus, who fell in love with his reflection in a pool of water.  If this can be said of Narcissus, then it might be said that I, on the contrary, <i>ran</i> from my reflection.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Atmosphere by vanattia</title>
		<link>http://vanessaattia.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/atmosphere-2/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>vanattia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mythologies of the Prop

“Like many ancient cultures, the Egyptians believed that the world emerged from primeval waters. The Egyptians personified these waters as the god, Nun. The pool often symbolized these waters of the First Time. The young sun god was often depicted rising from a pool of water that represented Nun.

&quot;The pool was also related to the Afterlife, as seen in the image to the right. As water was greatly needed for survival in Egypt&#039;s harsh desert climate, the deceased was often shown drinking from a pool of water. Often a fruit-laden palm tree is shown growing from the pool. These images were very common in Egyptian tombs, and they were often accompanied by wishes for the deceased to &quot;walk according to your desire on the beautiful edge of your pool.&quot; “ 
- http://www.egyptianmyths.net/pool.htm</description>
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<p>“Like many ancient cultures, the Egyptians believed that the world emerged from primeval waters. The Egyptians personified these waters as the god, Nun. The pool often symbolized these waters of the First Time. The young sun god was often depicted rising from a pool of water that represented Nun.</p>
<p>&#8220;The pool was also related to the Afterlife, as seen in the image to the right. As water was greatly needed for survival in Egypt&#8217;s harsh desert climate, the deceased was often shown drinking from a pool of water. Often a fruit-laden palm tree is shown growing from the pool. These images were very common in Egyptian tombs, and they were often accompanied by wishes for the deceased to &#8220;walk according to your desire on the beautiful edge of your pool.&#8221; “<br />
- <a href="http://www.egyptianmyths.net/pool.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.egyptianmyths.net/pool.htm</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Material Register (Vehicle): Thing (prop) by vanattia</title>
		<link>http://vanessaattia.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/the-material-register-vehicle-thing-prop-2/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>vanattia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the Accuracy of the Emblem

I was initially skeptical of, and even a bit worried about, the accuracy of the signifier I chose and the subsequent construction of the emblem and logo.  There was a secondary signifier which I found repeated across my work, though somewhat more obscurely: “mouth,” specifically as the unnamed or indirectly referred to signifier for recurrent themes of literal and figurative consumption (mouth of the bay, eating cake, the vicious ‘meat-eaters’).  I did not choose to use this because seemed less like an object signifier and much more of a theme. 

The fact that the pool-mouth symbols seemed to mesh at times (the threat of consumption), and end up on sort of the same trajectory gave me faith in the process as leading to consistent results, and in revealing patterns that are indeed really there, full of revealing potential.  As Professor Ulmer told me in an earlier e-mail this semester, his experimentation with the mystory format has shown him that “all roads lead to Rome.”    

Furthermore, I was surprised to find that my logo had the same popcycle placements as Professor Ulmer’s example, as I was expecting to struggle with locating their emblematic positions.  Soon, though, I realized that my discourses fit snugly in their respective slots.

I really enjoyed the challenging, creative task of constructing the mystory.

What I learned about myself?  I am a pessimist and a bit of a paranoid neurotic, but I keep returning, however hesitantly, to root for humanity&#039;s escape from that doomed expedition and be lifted from that consuming pool.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the Accuracy of the Emblem</p>
<p>I was initially skeptical of, and even a bit worried about, the accuracy of the signifier I chose and the subsequent construction of the emblem and logo.  There was a secondary signifier which I found repeated across my work, though somewhat more obscurely: “mouth,” specifically as the unnamed or indirectly referred to signifier for recurrent themes of literal and figurative consumption (mouth of the bay, eating cake, the vicious ‘meat-eaters’).  I did not choose to use this because seemed less like an object signifier and much more of a theme. </p>
<p>The fact that the pool-mouth symbols seemed to mesh at times (the threat of consumption), and end up on sort of the same trajectory gave me faith in the process as leading to consistent results, and in revealing patterns that are indeed really there, full of revealing potential.  As Professor Ulmer told me in an earlier e-mail this semester, his experimentation with the mystory format has shown him that “all roads lead to Rome.”    </p>
<p>Furthermore, I was surprised to find that my logo had the same popcycle placements as Professor Ulmer’s example, as I was expecting to struggle with locating their emblematic positions.  Soon, though, I realized that my discourses fit snugly in their respective slots.</p>
<p>I really enjoyed the challenging, creative task of constructing the mystory.</p>
<p>What I learned about myself?  I am a pessimist and a bit of a paranoid neurotic, but I keep returning, however hesitantly, to root for humanity&#8217;s escape from that doomed expedition and be lifted from that consuming pool.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mood by vanattia</title>
		<link>http://vanessaattia.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/mood/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>vanattia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One point of contention I have about the blog requirements is that the splash page be the logo.  If we’re talking about navigability for outside visitors, this doesn’t seem like the most logical set up.  It could either immediately turn off the viewer, appearing vague and confusing and offering little direction for navigation, or conversely it could spark some browsing interest. This remains to be seen.

On a more positive note, Word Press recently updated their interface, which greatly improved previously long-winded periods to upload and revise my posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One point of contention I have about the blog requirements is that the splash page be the logo.  If we’re talking about navigability for outside visitors, this doesn’t seem like the most logical set up.  It could either immediately turn off the viewer, appearing vague and confusing and offering little direction for navigation, or conversely it could spark some browsing interest. This remains to be seen.</p>
<p>On a more positive note, Word Press recently updated their interface, which greatly improved previously long-winded periods to upload and revise my posts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Expedition by vanattia</title>
		<link>http://vanessaattia.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/expedition-4/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>vanattia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“More recently, some scholars have made a case [that Narvaez landed at] Haze Peninsula at Charlotte Harbor. The official Florida Bicentennial map, prepared under supervision of a committee chaired by Historian Samuel Proctor, places the Narvaez landing there.” – Historian Lindsey Williams

I found it an interesting coincidence, too, that I am now volunteering in the archives of the oral history program that Proctor established here at the University of Florida.  

It’s funny that St.Pete/Tampa local history and our own silently disagree or ‘fight’ about the landing site, and thus the ownership of this history, when it is largely unremarkable.  But what investment the community has in this story, and others, of the passing-through pillager, is not always immediately apparent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“More recently, some scholars have made a case [that Narvaez landed at] Haze Peninsula at Charlotte Harbor. The official Florida Bicentennial map, prepared under supervision of a committee chaired by Historian Samuel Proctor, places the Narvaez landing there.” – Historian Lindsey Williams</p>
<p>I found it an interesting coincidence, too, that I am now volunteering in the archives of the oral history program that Proctor established here at the University of Florida.  </p>
<p>It’s funny that St.Pete/Tampa local history and our own silently disagree or ‘fight’ about the landing site, and thus the ownership of this history, when it is largely unremarkable.  But what investment the community has in this story, and others, of the passing-through pillager, is not always immediately apparent.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Expedition by vanattia</title>
		<link>http://vanessaattia.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/expedition/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>vanattia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember learning about the string of Spanish explorers who touched by our waters; they are memorialized in the street names, parks, statues, and murals of downtown Punta Gorda and Port Charlotte.  At some point their legacies begin to blur.

I took this story of Narvaez, in being so unequivocally doomed, as the representative of those early Spanish explorations to Florida, many of which specifically began at and passed through the Charlotte Harbor (to the best of some scholarly knowledge at least).  

I have lived on a channel of the Peace River, which feeds into the harbor, from the time that I was 2 until I left home at 18.  I crossed over the harbor on the I-75 Bridge every day on my way to middle and high school.

I have watched those waters, and I’m told great men came to them ‘once upon a time’.  But the truth of what they found is often unremarkable and their real journeys are little more than a footnote on the page of a popular memory eager to attend to romantic ideals of Gold, Glory, and God in “New World” conquests.  The truth is, they had to leave. There was no gold.  Again and again these efforts were abandoned, and they left in their wake little more than the bodies of their Indian guides and enemies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember learning about the string of Spanish explorers who touched by our waters; they are memorialized in the street names, parks, statues, and murals of downtown Punta Gorda and Port Charlotte.  At some point their legacies begin to blur.</p>
<p>I took this story of Narvaez, in being so unequivocally doomed, as the representative of those early Spanish explorations to Florida, many of which specifically began at and passed through the Charlotte Harbor (to the best of some scholarly knowledge at least).  </p>
<p>I have lived on a channel of the Peace River, which feeds into the harbor, from the time that I was 2 until I left home at 18.  I crossed over the harbor on the I-75 Bridge every day on my way to middle and high school.</p>
<p>I have watched those waters, and I’m told great men came to them ‘once upon a time’.  But the truth of what they found is often unremarkable and their real journeys are little more than a footnote on the page of a popular memory eager to attend to romantic ideals of Gold, Glory, and God in “New World” conquests.  The truth is, they had to leave. There was no gold.  Again and again these efforts were abandoned, and they left in their wake little more than the bodies of their Indian guides and enemies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tar Pit &#8211; part 3 by vanattia</title>
		<link>http://vanessaattia.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/tar-pit-part-3/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>vanattia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was also reluctant to use The Land Before Time because it seemed just a little, well, silly (talking dinosaurs and all).  But I must have watched it more times in my childhood than anything else, so I stuck to the logic of the punctum and ran with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was also reluctant to use The Land Before Time because it seemed just a little, well, silly (talking dinosaurs and all).  But I must have watched it more times in my childhood than anything else, so I stuck to the logic of the punctum and ran with it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Party Dress &#8211; part 4 by vanattia</title>
		<link>http://vanessaattia.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/the-party-dress-part-4/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>vanattia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a little resistant to using this micronarrative.  I thought &quot;Earliest Memory&quot; was better written, but I found it to be less workable in the context of the project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a little resistant to using this micronarrative.  I thought &#8220;Earliest Memory&#8221; was better written, but I found it to be less workable in the context of the project.</p>
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